RedKiteNFT Fireside Chat 00001 ‘Humanity’ with The Refugee Council (29.03.22)

23 min readMay 2, 2022


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In this first fireside chat, the RedKiteNFT team discusses the ‘Humanity’ group NFT art show that is raising funds to support the current global humanitarian crisis.

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The team are joined by Tamsin Baxter, who is the Executive Director of Fundraising and External Affairs for The Refugee Council.

Three-part agenda

  1. What is Humanity? Quick overview of the group show.
  2. What is The Refugee Council?
  3. Questions from our community for The Refugee Council.

About ‘Humanity’

‘Humanity’ is a group NFT art show raising funds to support the current global humanitarian crisis.

  1. Group NFT art show lasting two weeks
  2. Features 33 artists, each offering one NFT artwork, which is going to be sold in editions of 8
  3. This means 256 NFTs in total
  4. In aid of UNICEF UK Children’s Emergency Fund, The Refugee Council and The Voices of Children Foundation
  5. A RedKiteNFT and OurTypes initiative
  6. Special guest curators, DropHook

About The Refugee Council

The Refugee Council is a leading charity working with refugees and people seeking asylum in the UK. Founded in 1951, following the creation of the UN Refugee Convention, they exist to support and empower people who have made the heart breaking decision to flee conflict, violence and persecution in order to rebuild their lives here in the UK.

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  • Angie Davey, RedKiteNFT
  • Tamsin Baxter, The Refugee Council
  • Bruna Corsato, RedKiteNFT
  • James Robbins, RedKiteNFT


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[00:00:00] Angie Davey: So, hello and welcome to the first RedKite fireside chat. I’m Angie curator and co-founder of RedKite. It. Today’s focus is on humanity, which is our charity group show. Joining us for the chat. We have Tamsin Baxter. Who’s the executive director of fundraising and external affairs for the refugee council.

[00:00:36] Hi, Tamsin. Welcome. And thank you for joining us today.

[00:00:40] Tamsin Baxter: Thank you for having me,

[00:00:41] Angie Davey: Also from the red kite team I’m joined today by Bruna Nick and James. So we have a three-part agenda. Firstly, what is humanity? We’re going to do a quick overview of the group show. What is the refugee council? And we’ll introduce the charity and talk about what they do.

[00:00:59] And then we’re going to go to some questions from the community for the refugee council and the humanity campaign. Some of the community have put questions forward via discord. So we’ll be answering. Okay, so I’m going to start by talking about humanity it’s a group NFT art show raising funds to support the current global humanitarian crisis.

[00:01:22] The catalyst of this project is the current Ukraine conflict. However we want to bring awareness. To all nations stricken by conflict worldwide and red kite seeks to do this through the help and support of the wider art world, art collectors, creatives, and fans alike who notoriously come together in these situations to help in any way they can.

[00:01:42] So as an overview the group NFT art show will last for two weeks. We have 33. Um, Each offering one and NFT Artwork. Um, So there’s two, sorry. There’s 32. NFTs in total. Two artists, the collaborating for one of them. So each of the NFTs will be sold in additions of eight. This means there’s 256 NFTs onsite.

[00:02:09] We’ve secured partnerships with three charities. UNICEF’s UK children’s emergency fund the voices of children foundation, which are based in Ukraine and refugee council, of course, who we’re talking to today they will all receive donations from protect This project was a red kite NFT and our types initiative, our types of our partners and a creative studio.

[00:02:32] And we have special guest curators drop hook who have bought on some digital artists to provide NFTs for the project. So with this, our goal is to unite the NFT community in show of force for. Shining the light onto desperate and sad situation by embracing the art world um, w when the, the art world, but does best coming together and putting color back in the world.

[00:02:57] The art world and notoriously kind of comes together in these situations. I remember when the news came out about the war in Ukraine Straight away on Instagram artists, we’re rallying together and trying to help in any way they can donating prints releasing new works with all the funds go to charity and it’s fantastic.

[00:03:16] And that’s always happened with through auction, personal studios, galleries, et cetera. It’s fantastic to see. So we thought as red kite a new NFT platform, we were in. Perfect. Perfect. To be able to host something and allow artists to sell their work to raise funds and awareness of what’s happening.

[00:03:35] So that’s enough talking for me, I think at the moment. I’d like to introduce Tamsin to talk about the refugee council one of our three charities.

[00:03:45] Tamsin Baxter: Yeah, thanks so much, Angie, and just a massive thank you to everyone involved. We’re incredibly pleased to and humbled by the support. So at the refugee council we’re in our 71st birthday year we were established in 1951 in a similar situation to what we find the world in today.

[00:04:05] So we were born out of the second world war and the influx. People desperately seeking safety and needing protection. And the UK stepped forward to take a, kind of a role in responding to that global crises of volume of people that were displaced. And it created the UK was a founding signatory of something called the refugee convention.

[00:04:28] And in the same year, there was the formation of our organization, the refugee camp. And put in its simplest form. The refugee council exists to help people fleeing war persecution and violence to rebuild their lives here in the UK. Last year we worked with over 14,000 men, women and children that were desperately seeking safety here in the UK, coming from a number of, really, really difficult, tragic situations.

[00:04:57] So, this summer, obviously we’ve seen the tragic events unfold with the fall of Qubole. I said, we’re working with people from Afghanistan around Eritrea Sudan. Of course now Ukraine. And so wherever there is war and conflict, there will be refugees. And where there refugees, refugee council will be here to help them recover and rebuild in terms of how we do that so we we have kind of four really key service areas. And the first of those is that we are the leading specialist of working with unaccompanied children. So that’s children that arrive here without without parent carer or family. In fact, over half of our, our client group of people we work with are aged under 18.

[00:05:45] So we’re kind of specialists in helping those children and young people. First of all, come to terms with what they’ve been through and that’s both in their home country and on route, the journey is very difficult and also when they arrive here it’s difficult to transition to understand how the UK operates.

[00:06:01] And it’s not always the warmest welcome with. So we support children, young people through that process, we support them through the asylum claims process, which is quite complicated and bureaucratical, and for a young person quite overwhelming. And if you don’t speak the language it’s almost totally isolating.

[00:06:18] So we make sure we hold their hands and sons shoulder to shoulder with them through that. And we help them learn, some of the ways that they can start to rebuild their lives from learning language. To understand the kind of cultural differences to understanding rights, entitlements benefits and the fun stuff.

[00:06:35] These are kids, they need to have fun. So a big part of our work is with children, young people. We also work with adults and families. So we run a large what we call a resettlement program. So for example, when people started to ride through the Afghan programs last summer, our services teams mobilized to provide support for meeting people at the end.

[00:06:54] Through to seeing them right through there, they kind of stay there during the that, so what would have happened in the summer was they would have arrived at an airport, gone into a hotel for a little while to isolate during the COVID periods. Then they’d move into what we call it a kind of a stop gap or contingency hotel, and then right through to a home in a community.

[00:07:13] And with. With them standing with, them throughout that process, helping to understand what life looks like. How do you start a life from scratch here from bank accounts and schooling and shopping and setting up doctor’s appointments. And how do you manage your health conditions? So everything you can think of.

[00:07:31] Everyone listens hows as part of their day life. And we all know how overwhelmed we are day life. So if you had to build that from scratch somewhere new, that’s part of the work of the refugee counselors to help a refugee or somebody that’s in the asylum system claim that we do. So that’s the second part.

[00:07:47] The third part is therapeutic support. People that are arriving have really have experienced untold trauma. And until you can start your life again, you need to really hold true to that. You need to stand with it. You need to tackle it. Otherwise it’s always going to be there. So we run a large scale therapeutic trauma-informed program.

[00:08:09] That’s for children, for families, and for adults, we do that in a range of settings one-to-one group. We run allotments programs, walking therapy, baking therapy, whatever it is going to be. That’s going to reach out and touch the heart of that person. And we also run integration services. So those are services that help people think about.

[00:08:27] Okay, so I’ve arrived, I’ve settled. I’ve looked at the kind of trauma piece, but alongside that, I want to learn English and I want to get a job. So we were in services that really help people think through how best to do that. And we have an ABC model. So we want to help people get a job. Then we want to help them get a better job.

[00:08:44] And then we want to help them get a career. And so that’s a service kind of level that we do when people are ready for. It’s wrapped around all of that. We run an information, crisis service. So I’m just like anybody else. There are moments in someone’s life when they arrive here, where they need extra help, people that are facing destitution, people that are facing real kind of issues with their asylum claims.

[00:09:07] So we run a dedicated information complex casework program to help people when, when things get really tough. And then alongside that there are difficult, definitely difficult is in this country with the way refugees and people seeking asylum a scene. And we are delighted by the warmth and generosity of spirit that we have seen this past year, but there is still challenges and difficulties in how.

[00:09:33] Refugees and people seeking asylum are treated in this country. So we run policy campaigning and an advocacy focused to make sure that for those that feel. We help them speak out. And for those that are ready to be heard, we give them that platform. So we make sure that alongside there’s direct service intervention that we can offer to help people rebuild their lives.

[00:09:54] We’re also there to support people, to advocate for their rights. And do you think refugees are one of the, you know, they’re one of the people that quite often can really be left at the bottom of the ladder and they must be elevated because they add such written richness and value and. To this country and yeah so that’s us in a nutshell.

[00:10:16] Angie Davey: Fantastic. Thanks so much. Sorry, James. That’s yeah that’s amazing. And thank you so much for coming on to, to speak about this. As I said we do have some questions. So James, did you want to,

[00:10:30] James Robbins: yeah. I was just going to ask about the. The scale of the global problem with refugees I was having a look at your website and I was absolutely shocked to see the actual numbers.

[00:10:41] It’d be. I think it’d be really useful to understand, you know, what is the actual scale of this problem and how many people are being displaced globally.

[00:10:47] Tamsin Baxter: So there’s over 80 million displaced people across the world, as I’ve kind of, the end of 2020, that figure will undoubtedly be higher because we have seen an unprecedented level of continued protracted conflict.

[00:11:03] So the world was already in. But not the best place. And then this year we’ve obviously seen two additional, a really tragic new complex. So in Afghanistan, the kind of real kind of fall of Qubole, and then obviously the, the terrible events that we’re seeing unfolding. So I the refugee council, we are expecting to see those figures rise in terms of refugees.

[00:11:27] So within that kind of displaced figure a refugees make up about 26 million of that figure. A lot of people stay within country. And I guess the fact of the matter is that sometimes there’s a lot of talk about, you know, there’s this refugee crisis. Well, actually a lot of refugees stay with neighboring countries because their plan is to go home.

[00:11:47] That’s what they want. They don’t want to leave. Where they live, they want to get home, but they want to be safe and they want their family members to be safe. So they do all of us would do, which is they search for protection when things are beyond manageable, when the violence and the bloodshed has got beyond what any human being should, should have to contend with.

[00:12:08] In terms of what that means. So that’s the global context in terms of what it means for the UK. The UK takes 1% of the, of the world’s refugees. So actually we take a very small portion of the number of refugees that are out there. So over 200,000 refugees currently in the UK and I think we believe that there’s definitely, there’s a rhetoric that we’re full.

[00:12:30] We can’t take any more. And I think we would argue that actually we, as one of the richest countries should play a role. And in supporting refugees across the globe and playing our part really to, to take on that global responsibility as we did in 1951, when we signed the UN convention of refugees. So yes, it’s a, it’s definitely not been the easiest of years to be supporting refugees because the refugees are amazing, but the need has, has definitely increased significantly over the last year because of, of what the world has witnessed.

[00:13:05] James Robbins: So it sounds like there’s a belief that there is the capacity to kind of help in sport more than the UK. How, how, how do we make that happen?

[00:13:13] Tamsin Baxter: Hmm. So that is a really difficult question because to make it happen, we have to have a government that supports that I think on an individual level, we all have a role to play in making our voices heard.

[00:13:27] If we’re a country that believes we should offer refugee protection for those that. And we should have a fair, effective humane asylum system. We need to be telling our MPS, we need to be talking about it and public. We need to be normalizing and humanizing refugees and people seeking asylum. And this year, I think we’ve seen that in a manner we’ve not seen in a very long time.

[00:13:47] Probably not since the Syrian crisis. In 20 15, 20 16. So, you know, we are now seeing moms at the school gate chatting about what can we do to help Ukraine, where, where we’re seeing local communities come together, people that would never have had a dinner party and talk about refugees and people seeking asylum that is movement it’s progress.

[00:14:08] And it is brilliant to see it. My heart has been filled with pride for this country. And communities in it this last year, there has been a mismatch between that and the government reaction. And so one of the biggest issues I think is that together collectively, we probably do need to tell our MPEs and tell our local councils how we’re feeling about it, because the difficulty with refugees is that they are.

[00:14:33] They’re not treated, always like people that you used in politics. And once you do that and you start to look at control over compassion and competency, I think we really do fall foul of what the British public wants. So we’re not full. There is capacity. It is a complex problem. Don’t get me wrong. There are, you know, there is a lot more protracted conflict and there’s been before and therefore there are a lot more displaced people and a lot more refugees.

[00:14:59] But with an effective system, we can support people. And the refugee council has solutions for that. So I think it’s paying our part to do that.

[00:15:10] Angie Davey: That’s fantastic. I saw actually I was reading the news the other day. They were talking about Ukrainian families coming over. There was actually a lady who, I don’t know, maybe her children had left home and she had a big house.

[00:15:24] And she reached out, I think, via Facebook. And it was to find out how she could help. And she got inundated by people wanting to come and stay with her house and she wanted to open her home. So then she reached out for Facebook and then she set up a Facebook group and she was inundated by hosts as well.

[00:15:42] And it was just such a heartwarming story because it’s like you were saying, I think the people of this country are really coming together. To help in any way they can. You know, they’ve got one or two spare rooms. I think there was a lady with a five-year-old child who was expecting another baby.

[00:15:59] There was another woman with a newborn who’s husband. They’ve been married a year and the husband had to stay and they’ve just heartbreaking, but it was just so nice to see you know, people here just opening up their, their homes and almost doing it with no kind of. I dunno, no help from the government or no real.

[00:16:20] I don’t know. It was just off their own backs. It wasn’t a scheme or anything. It was just something that had come up. And I thought that was fantastic.

[00:16:26] Tamsin Baxter: A hundred percent. I mean, I think what we’ve learned through the COVID period is that when you feel you have no control on anything, the way you can take back control is to support others.

[00:16:37] And I think we really saw that through what happened. In 2020 and 2021. And certainly I’d say people have witnessed on screen and they’ve read in the newspapers about what’s happened in Ukraine and people feel powerless to stop the bloodshed, but they can help people who choose to come here. And it’s yeah.

[00:16:57] It’s. The stories of the lengths that people have gone to, as you say, take people into their own homes, collections, people, organizing, getting things over to the borders. It’s, it’s the part of this country that we should be really proud of. It’s what makes us who we are.

[00:17:13] Angie Davey: Fantastic. Shall we put some of the questions from discord to Tamsin?

[00:17:18] Is, is this a good time?

[00:17:20] James Robbins: Yeah,

[00:17:21] Angie Davey: Some you may have touched on already. But the first one I have here is how has the work of the refugee council changed and evolved since its beginning in 1951 until now?

[00:17:35] Tamsin Baxter: So

[00:17:37] I would say the clients that we work with and the type of services we run have largely remained consistent.

[00:17:45] Since our kind of creation in 1951 they’ve ebbed and they flown into, so we’ve grown and we’ve shrunk dependence on the needs of the globe at the time. One of the things that probably has changed is the type of environment that we’ve worked in. So we were probably one of a few handful in the 1950s.

[00:18:04] very organizations working closely with government to support refugees. And what we’ve seen is the kind of flourishing of community organizations step out be that church group. Uh, they’re called refugee community organizations, smaller charities, specialist, refugee, and asylum chapter. And actually that’s really bought the community.

[00:18:22] The community was always there. If you think about the kindergarten transport in the, in the 1950s, the community’s always stepped up and said, we’re going to help address this solution. And we’re going to help address and provide a solution to this global issue. But certainly there’s been more of a sophistication now of taking that and looking at how that is working together.

[00:18:42] In terms of safeguarding and practice. And you have to think as a country where we’re really mobilizing and having to professionalize that in a way that probably in the 1950s was a little bit more fluid. And actually I think with what we’ve seen with Ukraine is the extension to that, which is a bit like the 1950s, where people were taking refugees into their home.

[00:19:01] We’re now seeing that with Ukraine, which is, has always existed. So how’s for refugees that kind of a community sponsorship that’s always been existence, but in small numbers and what we’re now seeing it being used. Far greater volume that kind of does look back to the kind of 1950s scale. So, so that would be one of the key areas I’d say is almost that sophistication of how those community groups charities, the government, local authorities come together when it sometimes works beautifully.

[00:19:29] There’s a lot of work to be done. Still. I’d say. Just from reading the news. You’ll probably see the words red tape and bureaucracy have been used quite a lot. So it’s by no means perfect, but it is wonderful to see communities come together just as this community, as teams to support people so desperately in need.

[00:19:47] That’s probably one of the biggest changes and for refugee council playing a role in convening those groups. So when Ukraine happens, Oh first when the conflict in Ukraine first started, one of the roles we took was to reach out to Ukrainian organizations in the UK to start to become a convener.

[00:20:05] And actually some of the Ukrainian organizations we’re working with, we’re working with Ukrainians and refugees, but it never had any experience of refugee protection. So what we could do is bring 70 years worth of protection experience to. You know, arts groups that work with Ukrainian individuals or church groups or faith groups.

[00:20:24] And so we were able to support them with, okay, this is what, this is what the process looks like. This is the, this is what the government have announced. This is what it means. And in turn they could say, this is what our group has. Our clients are saying to us, or this is what our community is saying.

[00:20:37] So we came together and I guess that’s the role of the refugee council quite often is to help convene. Together and share our knowledge because only by working together where we affect change and support people, given the scale of the issue that we’re facing.

[00:20:55] James Robbins: Thank you. Besides buying NFTs through the humanity campaign and donating money how can people get involved and contribute to the refugee Council?

[00:21:05] Tamsin Baxter: First of all, those are brilliant ways of getting involved. So I definitely want to seconds them. There’s a few things, really new, really depends on the individual. So if you’re somebody that’s at time poor, but you really want to contribute, then I’d ask you to sign up to our newsletter. So to visit our website.

[00:21:20] and our newsletter. We’ll keep you informed. Isn’t the news last and it keeps you informed of any campaigning activity that we’re taking. So if we want to speak out on a particular topic, we have been doing this with things like the announcements about Rwanda and outsourcing and sign process to Rwanda things like the nationality and borders act that got passed by.

[00:21:42] The government yesterday. So we’re right in the mix of some of the biggest pieces of political legislation and policies and practices. And if you feel strongly about that, sign up to our newsletter and help join us to advocate with, and for refugees and people seeking asylum. So be a part of our campaign family.

[00:22:02] We need you, we love you. It’s a brilliant journey to be a part of, and you will make a difference. If you’re somebody that has time to donate, then please have a look at volunteering webpages. We’ve got lots of volunteering opportunities. And our volunteers are the lifeblood of our organization.

[00:22:19] We’ve got anywhere between 200 and 300 volunteers. And I would challenge anyone that says they come and volunteer for the record. And don’t feel absolutely inspired by the people that we work with. And that’s both the staff and the client group that we’ve got everybody is everybody is passionate and friendly and focused, and we just want to make people whose lives have not been what they expected them to be at this moment in time, we want to help them minimize the disruption that it’s caused by coming over here and to really help them start again.

[00:22:52] So those will be two key ways in the first instance. I guess the other thing is, you know, we’re always looking for opportunities to have conversations with people who might have something different to bring to the table. So if there’s people that have a certain business or a certain skill set and you think, do you know what I’d like to see if I could add value to this, then, then let’s have a conversation we never even thought about.

[00:23:11] So also just creative ideas as well, like who knows what we can achieve when we put our minds together.

[00:23:17] Bruna Corsato: Amazing. So you’re shared a lot about the challenges and I’m also curious if you could share the highlights and biggest wins in the work of the organizations before.

[00:23:29] Tamsin Baxter: So there’s so many highlights and wins that I could choose from.

[00:23:33] I think that there was a real highlight in when the Syrian conflict happened in kind of the 20 15, 16 moment. It was the refugee council. And lots of other refugee organizations. There are some brilliant refugee organizations and asylum organizations that came together and really lobbied for what the UK response was going to be.

[00:23:51] And as a result of that kind of consortium collective effort, there was the announcement of something called the Syrian. Refugee resettlement program. And that led to 20,000 Syrians being resettled here in the UK, between that period in 2020, it’s hard not to feel like that’s a huge win that’s 20,000 people, 20,000 lives that were enabled to seek safety.

[00:24:15] And I think if there hadn’t been as much pressure at that time by the refugee council and others, I wouldn’t know whether we would have achieved that. I think there are the highest, the true Highland. For any refugee organization is the individual stories of success. So maybe I’ll share just a couple. But those, I th I think that’s where you feel.

[00:24:37] Success like no other. So I know that there was a young Afghan chap that I met that takes part in our refugee cricket project. So quite often we’ll use a stimulating kind of fun subjects to bring people together, particularly young people together. And it enables us once we built trust to have conversations about lots of different things that are really difficult, suicide ideation.

[00:25:01] Complex asylum claims there, ages is being disputed lots of things, but if you use kind of something like cricket as the hub then they can relax and they can just be kids. And then you can, you can do some kind of complex casework along. And he he was desperately missing his family. He was really missing his brother who was his best friend.

[00:25:20] And through that program, that kind of really came out that a lot of, kind of . His anger and frustration with life generally. And some of the reasons he was feeling quite so lost and at all. The loss of a family member that he didn’t even know was alive or well, and during the course of time and conversations with him and social workers and others around him, we did manage to identify where his brother was, where he was in the an asylum claim system.

[00:25:46] And after not too long, a period, his brother was reunited with him here in the UK, under a family reunion program. You know, the, those two, young men being able to get back to being brothers and start their life here together. I mean, if that’s not a highlight, I don’t know what is and that is to do with the work with the refugee council and our partner organizations.

[00:26:07] So really, really proud of that. And I think the only other one I’d mentioned is, you know, through our employment teams, I remember meeting a guy who had started working on one of our employment. With a Starbucks and we’re serving coffee. It was kind of really learning his trade. But for him, his background in his home country was, you know, was that he’d actually been a kind of city professional.

[00:26:27] And through the course of that program, The building above him was a footsie 100 company. And after going through our program, it’s cut a very long story short. He ended up going from serving coffee to those office workers, above him to getting a job in the footsie 100 company and going in to buy his coffee and chatting with his mates and colleagues.

[00:26:46] And that’s the difference between a job, a better job and a career, but sometimes you have to do the job bit first. There’s hope there’s so many highlights, but it’s the people’s stories that always at the biggest highlights for, for me. And I know for many people who worked with refugee council,

[00:27:01] James Robbins: It’s amazing.

[00:27:02] It’s it’s so nice to hear positive outcomes.

[00:27:04] Bruna Corsato: So what do you think is the most or the vital things in order for them to really start a new life? And I wouldn’t say like move on, but really get connected to where they are.

[00:27:17] Tamsin Baxter: So I think the most important things to help a refugee rebuild their lives here are three things.

[00:27:25] The first would be to feel welcome and wanted by their local communities. And to really feel that secondly, to be given therapeutic support, because I don’t think there’s many refugees and people seeking asylum that haven’t been through very traumatic experiences. And I stand with what I said earlier.

[00:27:43] I think they need to, they need to hold with that and stand solid with it and, and really get the support they need to address it. And then thirdly, I’d say the next piece would be Language. So one of the biggest barriers to integration for refugees would be accessing good quality English language lessons.

[00:28:02] So we absolutely don’t want anybody to lose their identity. It’s really important that people can be who they are, but when it comes to integrating and finding work or accessing education, English, refugees tell us English is the biggest barrier. So that would be a key, a key one. I think we’re doing a lot of work trying to pilot different English language schemes.

[00:28:25] So when you’re in the, when you’re in the asylum system, so when you haven’t been given refugee status, yet, you’re not entitled to very much English language, but that is actually, that can be anywhere for six months from two years. So if you can imagine the lost opportunity to learn a language in those two years we’re looking at running a program at the moment where we work with people in the asylum system to help as quickly as possible to bring their kind of skill set around language up to, to help them to integrate into local communities, find a job and to get the life that they want here.

[00:28:54] Angie Davey: And

[00:28:54] just lastly we, it just might be helpful to explain where the funds raised from this project will be going.

[00:29:04] Tamsin Baxter: So funds raised through the humanity campaign, we’ll be going towards our therapeutic services, our complex casework. So the case works for people in crisis and also to help with our programs, our resettlement programs, both for Ukrainians, but also all nationalities.

[00:29:22] So it’ll go directly to services that are working with refugees and people seeking asylum on the phone.

[00:29:31] Angie Davey: Fantastic. Thanks so much. Thank you, Thompson for joining us today. I think that’s all, I’ll just wrap it up quickly by just Talking quickly about humanity. We hope to begin the show in a couple of weeks time and there’ll be two drops a day running over 16 days 32 artworks in total.

[00:29:50] Selling it different prices. Yeah, please have a look when we launched the show and see how you can get involved and with the proceeds going obviously to refugee council UNICEF and the voices of children. So I’d just like to say on behalf of the team at red kite, thank you for joining us today Tamsin.

[00:30:07] It’s so inspiring to hear the detail and the the good refugee councils doing. Thank you also to the red kite team our types all the charities, artists, partners, volunteers for helping humanity happen in a very short space of time. I mean, we, we had the idea. A few weeks ago and it just came together so quickly and that’s mainly down to artists just wanting to help and get going on it, which is fantastic.

[00:30:31] Please visit refugee for more information and show your support at humanity, which we’ll be updating. On an ongoing basis and where you’ll see the NFTs released in a couple of weeks time and share with your friends and family, keep an eye on uh, socials and everything for more information.

[00:30:56] Um, fantastic. Thank you. And we’ll catch you on the next fireside chat.




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